Date stamps for drums produced in 1960-1963 were strictly red ink, while date stamps from 1964-1969 were red or black. Drop us an email at sales TheDrumDealer. As collectors and historians we have to settle for a date range or a specific year at best. Shells are made from North American maple using 7-ply construction with cross laminated ply layers and grain rotated 90 degrees between layers for rock solid strength and booming performance. The space is blank on all drums. Always remember that I am only reporting info I have gathered and try to avoid presenting anything as absolutely definitive.
Weval, premier musical instrument shops in modern drums. Please do not just email me a serial number and demand that I tell you how old it is. Until now, dating of Ludwig Standards represented another gap in the information available to the vintage drum enthusiast. In reality, the early days of drum manufacturing held no regard for dating or serializing a product for chronological relevance. Yes we have a real brick and mortar store but please read on to see how we sell Ludwig drum kits and visit Rocknrollvintage. What would be a guess of year of manufacture? They are 5x14 with 8 lugs and a P83 throw-off. I also get people asking what factory a drum might have shipped from or the exact month a drum was made or even the production numbers etc.
Nonetheless, many people see the existing dating guides as if chiseled in stone. Dating ludwig snare drums gier. No 1975s -- unless you are talking the cut badges on metal snares. There is no information on the inside of the drums. Rounded bearing edges are then formed drawing full, focused lows from inner and outer Maple plys, while eliminating unwanted overtones for superior tone and clarity. Paolo Sburlati Ludwig: Yesterday and Today, Paolo Sburlati Enterprises, Turin, Italy,1999.
The guides teach the reader about changes in the physical characteristics of these drums which will help them to determine if a drum is authentic or just a collection of mismatched parts. I get emails all of the time with a basic drum description and a serial number from visitors in hopes I can unlock the history of their drum. I try to differentiate based upon the badge style with or without the trademark registration symbol and also the ones that have been trimmed. We also have to state that much of the record keeping was archaic at best and in some cases history was destroyed in plant fires or just tossed in the garbage! It appears that the same date code was put on the label for a large number of drums, making me think that it was not really a datecode at all. Gier's guide replaces the serial number dating part of Cook's book.
The discrepancy between date stamps and serial number on badges exists because the stamp was put on the shell during the first half of the production process. My guess would be that 896xxx - 916xxx is the serial number span from 1972 to 1975, and not because they didn't make any drums during that time. So look for vintage drum is a long history. In most cases the best way to estimate the date of a drum is its physical characteristics. The first generation muffler had red felt and existed until around 1965.
These brackets were designed with a more boxed hard edge look, with an internal eyelet bolt needing a wing nut to fasten the bracket to the support rod. If I dig up anything else, I'll post it. Hopefully someone with a high level of interest in 1970s Ludwigs will take on the project. I think that most sources are in general agreement when it comes to this era of drums. In fact I once heard that they started using serial numbers not for their own use per say but so schools and institutions could keep track of instruments in inventory.
For example, which version of the Wrap do your drums have? Keystone badge, 1971vintage ludwig super sensitive snare drum products 1 - ludwig drums. Motu is no more than a drum, dating guide: drum center 60's ludwig snare drum gear that the evolution of 275 - below. Let us help you build the kit of your dreams. Unfortunately, more often times, the number does not exist or has worn away. The Drum Dealer is proud to offer the copper timpani, the 6. You have a relationship between serial - excellent used 1.
Here are some references you can use to date by serial number. The catalog I have is copyrighted 1971. Contact us for a quote before you buy your next Ludwig kit or snare. This bass casting would change form at around 1966. It is also common knowledge that finishes that were discontinued were kept in inventory and people would order them, so production would use the finish.